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date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:12:01 -0700,    group: microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax        back       


XP Professional SP3 - HP Photosmart 2710 - Admin works - Users doe   
I have 
XP Prof with SP3
HP Photosmart 2710 printer (Drivers upto date with HP).

Scenario:
Using account that is a member of Adminstrator group, works fine.
Normal User account enqueues the print job with error, does not print, but 
if the PC is rebooted it prints out when an adminstrator logs on.  
Restarting the print spool has no effect.  
All users have full access.
Adding user to admin group alows user to print.

All worked fine under SP2.  
This workstation was installed from scratch with SP3 on top of Sp2.

At a loss.
date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:12:01 -0700   author:   BradM

Re: XP Professional SP3 - HP Photosmart 2710 - Admin works - Users doe   
the driver or some monitor software is requiring access to a resource only 
the admin has access to.  I'd check that users have read access to the spool 
directory  (typically \windows\system32\spool\printers)  and some drivers 
will write temp files to \windows\temp which breaks the user when this 
location is restricted.  HP would be the best starting point for the 
resources they require.  If you have changed any of the default security 
settings (or are running an application that does this) review what you 
changed if there is some logging.

-- 
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
http://support.microsoft.com/search/?adv=1

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

"BradM"  wrote in message 
news:910EDA86-47E7-4A69-99E7-7CAA6A77D397@microsoft.com...
>I have
> XP Prof with SP3
> HP Photosmart 2710 printer (Drivers upto date with HP).
>
> Scenario:
> Using account that is a member of Adminstrator group, works fine.
> Normal User account enqueues the print job with error, does not print, but
> if the PC is rebooted it prints out when an adminstrator logs on.
> Restarting the print spool has no effect.
> All users have full access.
> Adding user to admin group alows user to print.
>
> All worked fine under SP2.
> This workstation was installed from scratch with SP3 on top of Sp2.
>
> At a loss.
date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 11:15:53 -0700   author:   Alan Morris [MSFT]

Re: XP Professional SP3 - HP Photosmart 2710 - Admin works - Users   
Thanks for the reply Alan,

I created a local group, so that I can trace what changes I made.

I have given 
full access to \windows\system32\spool\printers, 
Modify access \windows\temp 
I have used some Tools like filemon and regmon, by doing runas to launch 
them, but no real evidence as to what is failing.
The interesting thing, is the work is obviously spooled, but it is not until 
the workstation is rebooted, and logged on by a admin, does it print.  
I have also applied the security using the groups to the HP install 
directories, and sub-dirs with full access, but nothing appears to work.

"Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:

> the driver or some monitor software is requiring access to a resource only 
> the admin has access to.  I'd check that users have read access to the spool 
> directory  (typically \windows\system32\spool\printers)  and some drivers 
> will write temp files to \windows\temp which breaks the user when this 
> location is restricted.  HP would be the best starting point for the 
> resources they require.  If you have changed any of the default security 
> settings (or are running an application that does this) review what you 
> changed if there is some logging.
> 
> -- 
> Alan Morris
> Windows Printing Team
> Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
> http://support.microsoft.com/search/?adv=1
> 
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
> 
> "BradM"  wrote in message 
> news:910EDA86-47E7-4A69-99E7-7CAA6A77D397@microsoft.com...
> >I have
> > XP Prof with SP3
> > HP Photosmart 2710 printer (Drivers upto date with HP).
> >
> > Scenario:
> > Using account that is a member of Adminstrator group, works fine.
> > Normal User account enqueues the print job with error, does not print, but
> > if the PC is rebooted it prints out when an adminstrator logs on.
> > Restarting the print spool has no effect.
> > All users have full access.
> > Adding user to admin group alows user to print.
> >
> > All worked fine under SP2.
> > This workstation was installed from scratch with SP3 on top of Sp2.
> >
> > At a loss. 
> 
> 
>
date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:21:02 -0700   author:   BradM

Re: XP Professional SP3 - HP Photosmart 2710 - Admin works - Users   
when the spooler is restarted, all pending print jobs are printed in the 
spooler context.

Disable Bidirectional on the ports tab.  I've seen several HP drivers with 
language monitors (status notification dialogs) that require admin access to 
whatever it is that they need.

-- 
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
http://support.microsoft.com/search/?adv=1

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

"BradM"  wrote in message 
news:D6D3635D-7C48-4959-84AD-D674E2182D38@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for the reply Alan,
>
> I created a local group, so that I can trace what changes I made.
>
> I have given
> full access to \windows\system32\spool\printers,
> Modify access \windows\temp
> I have used some Tools like filemon and regmon, by doing runas to launch
> them, but no real evidence as to what is failing.
> The interesting thing, is the work is obviously spooled, but it is not 
> until
> the workstation is rebooted, and logged on by a admin, does it print.
> I have also applied the security using the groups to the HP install
> directories, and sub-dirs with full access, but nothing appears to work.
>
> "Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:
>
>> the driver or some monitor software is requiring access to a resource 
>> only
>> the admin has access to.  I'd check that users have read access to the 
>> spool
>> directory  (typically \windows\system32\spool\printers)  and some drivers
>> will write temp files to \windows\temp which breaks the user when this
>> location is restricted.  HP would be the best starting point for the
>> resources they require.  If you have changed any of the default security
>> settings (or are running an application that does this) review what you
>> changed if there is some logging.
>>
>> -- 
>> Alan Morris
>> Windows Printing Team
>> Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/search/?adv=1
>>
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no 
>> rights.
>>
>> "BradM"  wrote in message
>> news:910EDA86-47E7-4A69-99E7-7CAA6A77D397@microsoft.com...
>> >I have
>> > XP Prof with SP3
>> > HP Photosmart 2710 printer (Drivers upto date with HP).
>> >
>> > Scenario:
>> > Using account that is a member of Adminstrator group, works fine.
>> > Normal User account enqueues the print job with error, does not print, 
>> > but
>> > if the PC is rebooted it prints out when an adminstrator logs on.
>> > Restarting the print spool has no effect.
>> > All users have full access.
>> > Adding user to admin group alows user to print.
>> >
>> > All worked fine under SP2.
>> > This workstation was installed from scratch with SP3 on top of Sp2.
>> >
>> > At a loss.
>>
>>
>>
date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 09:54:22 -0700   author:   Alan Morris [MSFT]

Re: XP Professional SP3 - HP Photosmart 2710 - Admin works - Users   
Alan,

Thanks for answer, but made no difference.  I have added more auditing to 
the registry, and I believe that I have got 1 step closer.  For some stupid 
reason, the HP drivers are opening the HKLM\Software\Hewle... P\... with 
write+ mode.  Std users do not have geenrally have anything other than read 
permission on HKLM.  I have added the Local Group to the key + sub-keys, and 
it appears to go further.

I have also posted on the HP printer forum.  Yet no replies.

Thanks again.  I will continue my saga to fix this.

"Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:

> when the spooler is restarted, all pending print jobs are printed in the 
> spooler context.
> 
> Disable Bidirectional on the ports tab.  I've seen several HP drivers with 
> language monitors (status notification dialogs) that require admin access to 
> whatever it is that they need.
> 
> -- 
> Alan Morris
> Windows Printing Team
> Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
> http://support.microsoft.com/search/?adv=1
> 
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
> 
> "BradM"  wrote in message 
> news:D6D3635D-7C48-4959-84AD-D674E2182D38@microsoft.com...
> > Thanks for the reply Alan,
> >
> > I created a local group, so that I can trace what changes I made.
> >
> > I have given
> > full access to \windows\system32\spool\printers,
> > Modify access \windows\temp
> > I have used some Tools like filemon and regmon, by doing runas to launch
> > them, but no real evidence as to what is failing.
> > The interesting thing, is the work is obviously spooled, but it is not 
> > until
> > the workstation is rebooted, and logged on by a admin, does it print.
> > I have also applied the security using the groups to the HP install
> > directories, and sub-dirs with full access, but nothing appears to work.
> >
> > "Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:
> >
> >> the driver or some monitor software is requiring access to a resource 
> >> only
> >> the admin has access to.  I'd check that users have read access to the 
> >> spool
> >> directory  (typically \windows\system32\spool\printers)  and some drivers
> >> will write temp files to \windows\temp which breaks the user when this
> >> location is restricted.  HP would be the best starting point for the
> >> resources they require.  If you have changed any of the default security
> >> settings (or are running an application that does this) review what you
> >> changed if there is some logging.
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> Alan Morris
> >> Windows Printing Team
> >> Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/search/?adv=1
> >>
> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no 
> >> rights.
> >>
> >> "BradM"  wrote in message
> >> news:910EDA86-47E7-4A69-99E7-7CAA6A77D397@microsoft.com...
> >> >I have
> >> > XP Prof with SP3
> >> > HP Photosmart 2710 printer (Drivers upto date with HP).
> >> >
> >> > Scenario:
> >> > Using account that is a member of Adminstrator group, works fine.
> >> > Normal User account enqueues the print job with error, does not print, 
> >> > but
> >> > if the PC is rebooted it prints out when an adminstrator logs on.
> >> > Restarting the print spool has no effect.
> >> > All users have full access.
> >> > Adding user to admin group alows user to print.
> >> >
> >> > All worked fine under SP2.
> >> > This workstation was installed from scratch with SP3 on top of Sp2.
> >> >
> >> > At a loss.
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> 
> 
>
date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:15:01 -0700   author:   BradM

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